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Spengler Jurors Hear Tapes Of Phone Calls In Court

Last updated on Tuesday, May 15, 2012

(SALEM) - The murder trial of Tammy Spengler continued Monday in Salem.

Spengler is accused of murder and aiding a murder in the killing of her boyfriend's father, Timothy M. Orman, and his uncle, Roy Orman. Her boyfriend, Timothy R. Orman, is expected to testify today.

As its second and final witness of the day, the state called Washington County Sheriff's Department Detective Brent Miller to the stand.

He confirmed that there was a protective order against Spengler from Roy Orman, one of the two men she stands accused of either aiding in the killing of or killing in June of 2011.

He was also called upon to enter into evidence a series of phone calls made by Tammy Spengler. Miller was involved with the case at the beginning and is in charge of the bank of recorded calls at the jail.

Kate Wehlann, of the Salem Leader, reorts the jury was given a transcript of a phone call between Spengler and Timothy R. Orman, Spengler's boyfriend at the time. He is also accused of murder. Prosecutors played the recording, which contained a possible confession, for the courtroom, but the sound quality in combination with the room's acoustics made it difficult to understand for observers.

Defense attorney David Smith, tried to block the airing of this recording because they said Orman had taken a deal of giving his confession in exchange for being able to talk to his girlfriend, and was therefore coerced in some way.

After the phone recording between Spengler and Orman, the court heard ten phone conversations, nine between Spengler and her mother, Tammy Thacker, and another between Spengler and an unnamed male friend.

Several times in the recordings, Thacker blamed the younger Orman for keeping her daughter on drugs and blaming the drugs for anything Spengler might have done the night of the killings.

"If you weren't strung out, you wouldn't have done that s***," Thacker said. "You would have been a different person ... and Tim kept feeding you that s***." In another phone call, she said, "I think he had such a lonely life, he just wanted someone to share it with. He kept drugging you up ... I hate that motherf*****."

Despite attempts to keep her spirits up, Spengler revealed to her mother that she didn't want to go through a trial.

"I don't want to go through this trial," she said. "I don't want to see that s*** again, I don't want to see these pictures, I don't want to deal with this."

Thacker, in one recording, told Spengler to come clean and tell what she knew for the possibility of getting out of prison in time to "still have a life" and be able to establish a relationship with her son.

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